before everyone starts flaming me i want to make sure that im not asking why Hatsumi does not teach these. thats up to him and his decision. Kumogakure Ryu Ninpo. This ryu is also a complete fighting system also one of the three Ninjutsu ryu of Bujinkan. Founded by Heinaizaimon Ienaga Iga. I know that the taijutsu of Kumogakure ryu is very similar to that of Togakure ryu, however there are alot of techniques, like survival and.

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Kumogakure ryu I have practiced Bujinkan before and there is something that I’m still wondering, I never got to ask this when practicing and I wish that I did. Your email address will not be published. Well my human imperfection kumlgakure again They might have seen one or two things but that is it. I just reviewed the koppojutsu video Join Date Apr Posts Likes received 0. I don’t know of any of the Japanese that have been taught that school or the other two mentioned.

Brad EllinFeb 12, This is of course very similar, if not identical to Wing Chun Kung Fu. Gikan ryu uses expansion and hira no kamae Kumgoakure of my friends in the early 90’s got one of the shihan to cover some of it with him and the densho he opened quite clearly had names for the kata.

Discussion in ‘ Ninjutsu ‘ started by chowFeb 11, Any ideas as to why? Another climbing device is the ippon sugi noburi single cedar climbing tool. In the end, the only person that would really know is Hatsumi.


Like Togakure Ryuwhich was paired with Kumogakure Ryu by the Toda family in the 17th Century, it is a ninjutsu school of thinking. This was originally a type of grappling device for climbing onto ships, but proved useful for combating sword bearers too. Kumpgakure this sanscrit chant has its roots in the Vedic teachings some say it is waka poetryand shows both Buddhist and Shinto attitudes.

Techniques of these two schools are demonstrated on the DVD “Bujinkan koppo-jutsu” Takamatsu Sensei was reputed to be able to leap 8 feet from standstill.

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A member of the Bujinkan demonstrating kenjutsu in a demon mask whilst Soke Hatsumi witnesses. If the answer is simply because Hatsumi says so then i suppose thats ok but im just wondering if anyone knwos of another reason why they are still considered part of the bujinkan if no one kymogakure hatsumi knows them and he doest teach them.

The time now is Despite the close feet, the Kumogakure is known for its great leaps during close combat. Maybe it’s in the works for next year, or the year after.

Results 1 to 11 of KeikaiFeb 13, Originally Posted by Gary Arthur. Yes, my password is: So anyone outside of Japan saying they are teaching it is flat out lying. Another specialty of this ryu is the Demon mask sometimes worn by members of the ryu. The Togakure Ryu teaches that violence is to be avoided.

Hi it will have your name and date as well as rank on it. Teachers who stand true to tradition won’t teach it as a sport, it’s against their belief in the value of it, the true meaning of karate. And Hatsumi clearly sayes that these arts have no named techniques If you view the Uk Taikai you can see Gikan Ryu and Kumogakure ryu There is at least one densho for Kumogakure ryu, and there are kata for Gikan ryu. Nintai Jisei – Be Patient All things come to those who wait. As far as the Bujinkan is concerned it is thought that this was first used in the Kumogakure Ryu teachings.


I heard that it was reserved only for thos over 10th dan and that it wasn’t presently being taught.

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Hatsumi does some really neat things with concealing the teppan while it is in use As to why it’s still a part of the Bujinkan, why not? A Kumogakure Ryu taijutsu skill is to do double blocks and strikes. You must log in kunogakure sign up to reply here.

One of the special weapons of the Ryu is the kamayari hook spear. Outdoor skills such as lighting fires in wet and damp weather and various other aspects of outdoor survival were included in Kumogakure Ryu training.

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Whether this is true or not, who knows. I am reading that the art is khmogakure in extinction due to the fact that “he doesn’t want to teach it.

In the same vain, the Ippon Sugi Noburi a metal pipe with an extendable chain inside and 3 claws at the end was used for both climbing trees and as a flexible weapon in the Kumogakure Ryu.